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Paul Harris, CFA A Comment -- General Comments From an Expert A Commentary COMMENT Apr 22, 2025

Bottom for S&P 500?

Very tough question, and he's not sure where that will be. Earnings numbers on the S&P 500 are high, and they haven't come down enough in the midst of all these tariff issues and the way the world is slowing down. Currently, the S&P earnings number is $260-262, but we may lose a lot of earnings growth this year.

A lot of analysts and market bears talk about coming back to the mean. That's the risk, where the S&P 500 goes back to an average of 16-17x PE. That's the level where you'd want to buy stocks. This quarter's earnings should be good for most companies, as they weren't dealing with tariff issues yet. The quarter after that may be a different story.

The other thing about the S&P 500 is that it's had massive multiple expansion over the years. It's not that earnings went up so much, but that the multiple expanded. So you may get a shrinking of that multiple. Hopefully, it doesn't get to 16x, but that's the downside risk to look for. It would certainly be a great buying opportunity.

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TSX hitting new highs, S&P not.

Two months ago, who would've thought we'd be at record highs for the TSX, with the S&P up ~20%, NASDAQ up ~28%? The S&P has rebounded nicely, a little more in fact than the TSX since those April lows. The S&P has had a really great run, and trying to reach those all-time highs again (we're 2% away) is a bit tougher. Compare that to the TSX, which has lagged the last couple of years.

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US-China trade issues have been worked through?

Yes, he thinks so. It looks as though they have a deal in place, pending final approvals. All eyes are on that, and we'll see what happens. Some other countries still need to reach agreements.

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Mood of the markets.

Recession fears are easing, inflation numbers are cooling to a certain extent, and the labour market is very steady in the US. That economic backdrop is still strong, and that's what's carrying the markets these days.

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Geographic exposure.

He is moving a little out of the US and TSX, simply because he sees valuation discounts outside NA. So he's looking at European and international markets. An uncertain US dollar helps those markets in terms of investment. Falling interest rates outside NA also helps.

He doesn't look for particular countries or regions, he's more company-specific.

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First tariff uncertainty, now geopolitical uncertainty?

Geopolitical risk is always there under the surface. The thing is, Iran doesn't have many friends. Both Assad and Hussein are gone, Hezbollah has been smashed, and Hamas is under ongoing attack. So geopolitically, doesn't think there's a huge risk here. The US is pretty dominant in this area.

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Investing approach now.

Trying to predict Trump is like trying to use a Ouija board. You just don't know, and he sometimes wonders if Trump really knows. In markets like this, it's very important that investors know what they're going to do. He often says that he doesn't know what markets are going to do, but he knows what he's going to do in different types of markets. You need to have a strategy if the market drops 5%, for example. For him, he ignores it. At 10%, he starts paying attention. At 15%, he starts adding back in. At 20%, he adds another 5%.

Look at your asset allocation risk tolerance (and understand what it means), and make sure you have good-quality assets. If markets decline, you can be reasonably confident they'll come back and it gives you a great opportunity to buy more.

The last thing you want to be doing is buying into a market that's at its highs for fear of missing out. The other bad thing is panicking and selling when markets are down. It's the old buy high, sell low; exactly the opposite of what you want.

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Bitcoin.

When he hears this, he immediately runs for the exits. The risk on this is just too high. It's a real factor in terms of markets and currencies, but it has too many issues.

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Stocks plus fixed income in one ETF, similar to a mutual fund?

There are some products that combine the two, but he's found that sometimes they go and change the asset allocation. He wants to be in charge of that. He'd tend to go instead with an equity ETF and a separate bond ETF.

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